If parallel keys aren't closely related, then why are they so easy to get to?
I got this comment on an answer of mine:
Parallel major/minor keys are not closely related. They are easy to
get to, but not closely related. It's like you might live by a subway
that make it easier to get somewhere, but you may not be close to the
destination.
(A comment on this answer)
Parallel keys are three sharps / flats away from the tonic, and therefore, they are not closely related. Regardless, they are very easy to get to. What's the reason?
theory harmony terminology key modulation
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I got this comment on an answer of mine:
Parallel major/minor keys are not closely related. They are easy to
get to, but not closely related. It's like you might live by a subway
that make it easier to get somewhere, but you may not be close to the
destination.
(A comment on this answer)
Parallel keys are three sharps / flats away from the tonic, and therefore, they are not closely related. Regardless, they are very easy to get to. What's the reason?
theory harmony terminology key modulation
A) why should there be any relationship between the two concepts? B) it’s very easy to get from C major to A minor, just play a G# followed by A. Or an E major chord followed by A minor chord.
– Todd Wilcox
5 hours ago
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I got this comment on an answer of mine:
Parallel major/minor keys are not closely related. They are easy to
get to, but not closely related. It's like you might live by a subway
that make it easier to get somewhere, but you may not be close to the
destination.
(A comment on this answer)
Parallel keys are three sharps / flats away from the tonic, and therefore, they are not closely related. Regardless, they are very easy to get to. What's the reason?
theory harmony terminology key modulation
I got this comment on an answer of mine:
Parallel major/minor keys are not closely related. They are easy to
get to, but not closely related. It's like you might live by a subway
that make it easier to get somewhere, but you may not be close to the
destination.
(A comment on this answer)
Parallel keys are three sharps / flats away from the tonic, and therefore, they are not closely related. Regardless, they are very easy to get to. What's the reason?
theory harmony terminology key modulation
theory harmony terminology key modulation
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A) why should there be any relationship between the two concepts? B) it’s very easy to get from C major to A minor, just play a G# followed by A. Or an E major chord followed by A minor chord.
– Todd Wilcox
5 hours ago
add a comment |
A) why should there be any relationship between the two concepts? B) it’s very easy to get from C major to A minor, just play a G# followed by A. Or an E major chord followed by A minor chord.
– Todd Wilcox
5 hours ago
A) why should there be any relationship between the two concepts? B) it’s very easy to get from C major to A minor, just play a G# followed by A. Or an E major chord followed by A minor chord.
– Todd Wilcox
5 hours ago
A) why should there be any relationship between the two concepts? B) it’s very easy to get from C major to A minor, just play a G# followed by A. Or an E major chord followed by A minor chord.
– Todd Wilcox
5 hours ago
add a comment |
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The issue here is to define "closely related" and "easy to get to". Here is my take on those phrases:
Closely related: Two keys are closely related when they share similar key signatures.
For example, compared to C major:
- A minor has the same key signature (no sharps/flats)
- F major has only one extra flat
- G major has only one extra sharp
Easy to get to: How smoothly one can transition from one key to another. Most keys can be fairly simple to get to as long as the voice leading is good. Back to our C major example, Playing a C -> Cm chord only requires the E to go to an Eb. So even though C minor has 3 flats, it can be transitioned to in a straightforward way.
I see... good answer!
– RailroadHill
5 hours ago
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Closely related keys are keys that have at most one accidental difference. So the set of notes inside the key are almost identical (or identical in the case of relative major/minor keys).
You can get to any key from any other key, but some key require less perpetration and have easily ways to convincingly transition. Parallel major/minor keys are some of the easiest to transition to and from because they share dominants. A G7 can just as easily get you C or Cm. There's even the concept of a Picardy third which is ending a minor piece or section on a parallel major chord. This is easy to achieve due to how the dominant can go to both naturally and convincingly without any need for preparation.
If you want to see examples on how modulation can take you to any key, I recommend Modulation by Max Reger.
Great answer! Upvote! :)
– RailroadHill
5 hours ago
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Well, "easy to get to" isn't exactly a very precise term musically. For a good example, note that from A major, B♭ major is almost as unrelated as it gets. However, lots of songs will just shift up a half-step to get to B♭ major.
I suppose the answer is that ultimately, "easy to get to" is completely independent of "related". How related a key is is a good indicator of how easily one can prepare a modulation as smoothly as possible, since we can all agree that "up a half-step" is rarely smooth.
EDIT: I was not aware that "closely related" is a specific term. I'll change it so my original use keeps its meaning.
Uh... this answer doesn't really make sense that much, as closely related means exceeding no more than one accidental in the key signature. Read nivlac's answer.
– RailroadHill
5 hours ago
But I still get the point. Thanks!
– RailroadHill
5 hours ago
Oh my... I just got a downvote on this question!
– RailroadHill
5 hours ago
I've used 'up a semitone' hundreds of times with choirs, and even simple groups of people singing, with not much musical knowledge. Sometimes, because I started in the wrong key, sometimes for fun. Vast majority of the time, no-one seemed to notice, but took the key change in their stride. Helped by the fact that the root of the old key becomes the leading note of the new. Also, with some songs, done a verse or two in parallel minor, when the song is in major. Or vice versa. Again, very few eyebrows raised.
– Tim
1 hour ago
add a comment |
Parallel keys do share the same dominant; this allows an easy transition using some type of authentic cadence. One may simply have a V-I somewhere (to establish the key) then use V-i to transition. It's not really a modulation; the same tonic note is being used.
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The issue here is to define "closely related" and "easy to get to". Here is my take on those phrases:
Closely related: Two keys are closely related when they share similar key signatures.
For example, compared to C major:
- A minor has the same key signature (no sharps/flats)
- F major has only one extra flat
- G major has only one extra sharp
Easy to get to: How smoothly one can transition from one key to another. Most keys can be fairly simple to get to as long as the voice leading is good. Back to our C major example, Playing a C -> Cm chord only requires the E to go to an Eb. So even though C minor has 3 flats, it can be transitioned to in a straightforward way.
I see... good answer!
– RailroadHill
5 hours ago
add a comment |
The issue here is to define "closely related" and "easy to get to". Here is my take on those phrases:
Closely related: Two keys are closely related when they share similar key signatures.
For example, compared to C major:
- A minor has the same key signature (no sharps/flats)
- F major has only one extra flat
- G major has only one extra sharp
Easy to get to: How smoothly one can transition from one key to another. Most keys can be fairly simple to get to as long as the voice leading is good. Back to our C major example, Playing a C -> Cm chord only requires the E to go to an Eb. So even though C minor has 3 flats, it can be transitioned to in a straightforward way.
I see... good answer!
– RailroadHill
5 hours ago
add a comment |
The issue here is to define "closely related" and "easy to get to". Here is my take on those phrases:
Closely related: Two keys are closely related when they share similar key signatures.
For example, compared to C major:
- A minor has the same key signature (no sharps/flats)
- F major has only one extra flat
- G major has only one extra sharp
Easy to get to: How smoothly one can transition from one key to another. Most keys can be fairly simple to get to as long as the voice leading is good. Back to our C major example, Playing a C -> Cm chord only requires the E to go to an Eb. So even though C minor has 3 flats, it can be transitioned to in a straightforward way.
The issue here is to define "closely related" and "easy to get to". Here is my take on those phrases:
Closely related: Two keys are closely related when they share similar key signatures.
For example, compared to C major:
- A minor has the same key signature (no sharps/flats)
- F major has only one extra flat
- G major has only one extra sharp
Easy to get to: How smoothly one can transition from one key to another. Most keys can be fairly simple to get to as long as the voice leading is good. Back to our C major example, Playing a C -> Cm chord only requires the E to go to an Eb. So even though C minor has 3 flats, it can be transitioned to in a straightforward way.
answered 5 hours ago
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I see... good answer!
– RailroadHill
5 hours ago
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I see... good answer!
– RailroadHill
5 hours ago
I see... good answer!
– RailroadHill
5 hours ago
I see... good answer!
– RailroadHill
5 hours ago
add a comment |
Closely related keys are keys that have at most one accidental difference. So the set of notes inside the key are almost identical (or identical in the case of relative major/minor keys).
You can get to any key from any other key, but some key require less perpetration and have easily ways to convincingly transition. Parallel major/minor keys are some of the easiest to transition to and from because they share dominants. A G7 can just as easily get you C or Cm. There's even the concept of a Picardy third which is ending a minor piece or section on a parallel major chord. This is easy to achieve due to how the dominant can go to both naturally and convincingly without any need for preparation.
If you want to see examples on how modulation can take you to any key, I recommend Modulation by Max Reger.
Great answer! Upvote! :)
– RailroadHill
5 hours ago
add a comment |
Closely related keys are keys that have at most one accidental difference. So the set of notes inside the key are almost identical (or identical in the case of relative major/minor keys).
You can get to any key from any other key, but some key require less perpetration and have easily ways to convincingly transition. Parallel major/minor keys are some of the easiest to transition to and from because they share dominants. A G7 can just as easily get you C or Cm. There's even the concept of a Picardy third which is ending a minor piece or section on a parallel major chord. This is easy to achieve due to how the dominant can go to both naturally and convincingly without any need for preparation.
If you want to see examples on how modulation can take you to any key, I recommend Modulation by Max Reger.
Great answer! Upvote! :)
– RailroadHill
5 hours ago
add a comment |
Closely related keys are keys that have at most one accidental difference. So the set of notes inside the key are almost identical (or identical in the case of relative major/minor keys).
You can get to any key from any other key, but some key require less perpetration and have easily ways to convincingly transition. Parallel major/minor keys are some of the easiest to transition to and from because they share dominants. A G7 can just as easily get you C or Cm. There's even the concept of a Picardy third which is ending a minor piece or section on a parallel major chord. This is easy to achieve due to how the dominant can go to both naturally and convincingly without any need for preparation.
If you want to see examples on how modulation can take you to any key, I recommend Modulation by Max Reger.
Closely related keys are keys that have at most one accidental difference. So the set of notes inside the key are almost identical (or identical in the case of relative major/minor keys).
You can get to any key from any other key, but some key require less perpetration and have easily ways to convincingly transition. Parallel major/minor keys are some of the easiest to transition to and from because they share dominants. A G7 can just as easily get you C or Cm. There's even the concept of a Picardy third which is ending a minor piece or section on a parallel major chord. This is easy to achieve due to how the dominant can go to both naturally and convincingly without any need for preparation.
If you want to see examples on how modulation can take you to any key, I recommend Modulation by Max Reger.
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Great answer! Upvote! :)
– RailroadHill
5 hours ago
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Great answer! Upvote! :)
– RailroadHill
5 hours ago
Great answer! Upvote! :)
– RailroadHill
5 hours ago
Great answer! Upvote! :)
– RailroadHill
5 hours ago
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Well, "easy to get to" isn't exactly a very precise term musically. For a good example, note that from A major, B♭ major is almost as unrelated as it gets. However, lots of songs will just shift up a half-step to get to B♭ major.
I suppose the answer is that ultimately, "easy to get to" is completely independent of "related". How related a key is is a good indicator of how easily one can prepare a modulation as smoothly as possible, since we can all agree that "up a half-step" is rarely smooth.
EDIT: I was not aware that "closely related" is a specific term. I'll change it so my original use keeps its meaning.
Uh... this answer doesn't really make sense that much, as closely related means exceeding no more than one accidental in the key signature. Read nivlac's answer.
– RailroadHill
5 hours ago
But I still get the point. Thanks!
– RailroadHill
5 hours ago
Oh my... I just got a downvote on this question!
– RailroadHill
5 hours ago
I've used 'up a semitone' hundreds of times with choirs, and even simple groups of people singing, with not much musical knowledge. Sometimes, because I started in the wrong key, sometimes for fun. Vast majority of the time, no-one seemed to notice, but took the key change in their stride. Helped by the fact that the root of the old key becomes the leading note of the new. Also, with some songs, done a verse or two in parallel minor, when the song is in major. Or vice versa. Again, very few eyebrows raised.
– Tim
1 hour ago
add a comment |
Well, "easy to get to" isn't exactly a very precise term musically. For a good example, note that from A major, B♭ major is almost as unrelated as it gets. However, lots of songs will just shift up a half-step to get to B♭ major.
I suppose the answer is that ultimately, "easy to get to" is completely independent of "related". How related a key is is a good indicator of how easily one can prepare a modulation as smoothly as possible, since we can all agree that "up a half-step" is rarely smooth.
EDIT: I was not aware that "closely related" is a specific term. I'll change it so my original use keeps its meaning.
Uh... this answer doesn't really make sense that much, as closely related means exceeding no more than one accidental in the key signature. Read nivlac's answer.
– RailroadHill
5 hours ago
But I still get the point. Thanks!
– RailroadHill
5 hours ago
Oh my... I just got a downvote on this question!
– RailroadHill
5 hours ago
I've used 'up a semitone' hundreds of times with choirs, and even simple groups of people singing, with not much musical knowledge. Sometimes, because I started in the wrong key, sometimes for fun. Vast majority of the time, no-one seemed to notice, but took the key change in their stride. Helped by the fact that the root of the old key becomes the leading note of the new. Also, with some songs, done a verse or two in parallel minor, when the song is in major. Or vice versa. Again, very few eyebrows raised.
– Tim
1 hour ago
add a comment |
Well, "easy to get to" isn't exactly a very precise term musically. For a good example, note that from A major, B♭ major is almost as unrelated as it gets. However, lots of songs will just shift up a half-step to get to B♭ major.
I suppose the answer is that ultimately, "easy to get to" is completely independent of "related". How related a key is is a good indicator of how easily one can prepare a modulation as smoothly as possible, since we can all agree that "up a half-step" is rarely smooth.
EDIT: I was not aware that "closely related" is a specific term. I'll change it so my original use keeps its meaning.
Well, "easy to get to" isn't exactly a very precise term musically. For a good example, note that from A major, B♭ major is almost as unrelated as it gets. However, lots of songs will just shift up a half-step to get to B♭ major.
I suppose the answer is that ultimately, "easy to get to" is completely independent of "related". How related a key is is a good indicator of how easily one can prepare a modulation as smoothly as possible, since we can all agree that "up a half-step" is rarely smooth.
EDIT: I was not aware that "closely related" is a specific term. I'll change it so my original use keeps its meaning.
edited 5 hours ago
answered 5 hours ago
user45266user45266
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Uh... this answer doesn't really make sense that much, as closely related means exceeding no more than one accidental in the key signature. Read nivlac's answer.
– RailroadHill
5 hours ago
But I still get the point. Thanks!
– RailroadHill
5 hours ago
Oh my... I just got a downvote on this question!
– RailroadHill
5 hours ago
I've used 'up a semitone' hundreds of times with choirs, and even simple groups of people singing, with not much musical knowledge. Sometimes, because I started in the wrong key, sometimes for fun. Vast majority of the time, no-one seemed to notice, but took the key change in their stride. Helped by the fact that the root of the old key becomes the leading note of the new. Also, with some songs, done a verse or two in parallel minor, when the song is in major. Or vice versa. Again, very few eyebrows raised.
– Tim
1 hour ago
add a comment |
Uh... this answer doesn't really make sense that much, as closely related means exceeding no more than one accidental in the key signature. Read nivlac's answer.
– RailroadHill
5 hours ago
But I still get the point. Thanks!
– RailroadHill
5 hours ago
Oh my... I just got a downvote on this question!
– RailroadHill
5 hours ago
I've used 'up a semitone' hundreds of times with choirs, and even simple groups of people singing, with not much musical knowledge. Sometimes, because I started in the wrong key, sometimes for fun. Vast majority of the time, no-one seemed to notice, but took the key change in their stride. Helped by the fact that the root of the old key becomes the leading note of the new. Also, with some songs, done a verse or two in parallel minor, when the song is in major. Or vice versa. Again, very few eyebrows raised.
– Tim
1 hour ago
Uh... this answer doesn't really make sense that much, as closely related means exceeding no more than one accidental in the key signature. Read nivlac's answer.
– RailroadHill
5 hours ago
Uh... this answer doesn't really make sense that much, as closely related means exceeding no more than one accidental in the key signature. Read nivlac's answer.
– RailroadHill
5 hours ago
But I still get the point. Thanks!
– RailroadHill
5 hours ago
But I still get the point. Thanks!
– RailroadHill
5 hours ago
Oh my... I just got a downvote on this question!
– RailroadHill
5 hours ago
Oh my... I just got a downvote on this question!
– RailroadHill
5 hours ago
I've used 'up a semitone' hundreds of times with choirs, and even simple groups of people singing, with not much musical knowledge. Sometimes, because I started in the wrong key, sometimes for fun. Vast majority of the time, no-one seemed to notice, but took the key change in their stride. Helped by the fact that the root of the old key becomes the leading note of the new. Also, with some songs, done a verse or two in parallel minor, when the song is in major. Or vice versa. Again, very few eyebrows raised.
– Tim
1 hour ago
I've used 'up a semitone' hundreds of times with choirs, and even simple groups of people singing, with not much musical knowledge. Sometimes, because I started in the wrong key, sometimes for fun. Vast majority of the time, no-one seemed to notice, but took the key change in their stride. Helped by the fact that the root of the old key becomes the leading note of the new. Also, with some songs, done a verse or two in parallel minor, when the song is in major. Or vice versa. Again, very few eyebrows raised.
– Tim
1 hour ago
add a comment |
Parallel keys do share the same dominant; this allows an easy transition using some type of authentic cadence. One may simply have a V-I somewhere (to establish the key) then use V-i to transition. It's not really a modulation; the same tonic note is being used.
add a comment |
Parallel keys do share the same dominant; this allows an easy transition using some type of authentic cadence. One may simply have a V-I somewhere (to establish the key) then use V-i to transition. It's not really a modulation; the same tonic note is being used.
add a comment |
Parallel keys do share the same dominant; this allows an easy transition using some type of authentic cadence. One may simply have a V-I somewhere (to establish the key) then use V-i to transition. It's not really a modulation; the same tonic note is being used.
Parallel keys do share the same dominant; this allows an easy transition using some type of authentic cadence. One may simply have a V-I somewhere (to establish the key) then use V-i to transition. It's not really a modulation; the same tonic note is being used.
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A) why should there be any relationship between the two concepts? B) it’s very easy to get from C major to A minor, just play a G# followed by A. Or an E major chord followed by A minor chord.
– Todd Wilcox
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