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I think most people have experienced this, but while pouring a beverage over ice I noticed the ice cracked upon pouring a beverage with anti-freeze properties.



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My initial thought was some sort of thermal shock due to the cooling from dissolving the ice and the resultant rapid cooling locally, but I know that this also occurs when other beverages such as various flavored carbonated sugar water products are poured on ice which do not depress freezing as much. So then What would cause the ice to crack?






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    Not related to the question, just fun fact: declassified KGB memos from 1970s on how to recognize a spy listed that the one is most likely going to add ice to its beverage and prolong the drinking process, whereas soviets wouldn't bother with ice and drink the glass in one gulp :D
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I think most people have experienced this, but while pouring a beverage over ice I noticed the ice cracked upon pouring a beverage with anti-freeze properties.



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After

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My initial thought was some sort of thermal shock due to the cooling from dissolving the ice and the resultant rapid cooling locally, but I know that this also occurs when other beverages such as various flavored carbonated sugar water products are poured on ice which do not depress freezing as much. So then What would cause the ice to crack?






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    Not related to the question, just fun fact: declassified KGB memos from 1970s on how to recognize a spy listed that the one is most likely going to add ice to its beverage and prolong the drinking process, whereas soviets wouldn't bother with ice and drink the glass in one gulp :D
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I think most people have experienced this, but while pouring a beverage over ice I noticed the ice cracked upon pouring a beverage with anti-freeze properties.



Before

Before



After

After



My initial thought was some sort of thermal shock due to the cooling from dissolving the ice and the resultant rapid cooling locally, but I know that this also occurs when other beverages such as various flavored carbonated sugar water products are poured on ice which do not depress freezing as much. So then What would cause the ice to crack?






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I think most people have experienced this, but while pouring a beverage over ice I noticed the ice cracked upon pouring a beverage with anti-freeze properties.



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After

After



My initial thought was some sort of thermal shock due to the cooling from dissolving the ice and the resultant rapid cooling locally, but I know that this also occurs when other beverages such as various flavored carbonated sugar water products are poured on ice which do not depress freezing as much. So then What would cause the ice to crack?






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    Not related to the question, just fun fact: declassified KGB memos from 1970s on how to recognize a spy listed that the one is most likely going to add ice to its beverage and prolong the drinking process, whereas soviets wouldn't bother with ice and drink the glass in one gulp :D
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    $begingroup$
    Not related to the question, just fun fact: declassified KGB memos from 1970s on how to recognize a spy listed that the one is most likely going to add ice to its beverage and prolong the drinking process, whereas soviets wouldn't bother with ice and drink the glass in one gulp :D
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Not related to the question, just fun fact: declassified KGB memos from 1970s on how to recognize a spy listed that the one is most likely going to add ice to its beverage and prolong the drinking process, whereas soviets wouldn't bother with ice and drink the glass in one gulp :D
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Not related to the question, just fun fact: declassified KGB memos from 1970s on how to recognize a spy listed that the one is most likely going to add ice to its beverage and prolong the drinking process, whereas soviets wouldn't bother with ice and drink the glass in one gulp :D
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I believe the ice cracked due to residual strains from freezing. Since ice freezes from the outside inward and it expands as it freezes, that as the inner water freezes, it imparts a tensile force on the surrounding ice (like the opposite effect of tempering glass). As the warm liquid removes ice, the cross sectional area under tension decreases while the tensile force remains the same, causing an increase in stress. Once the stress reaches a certain point, the ice fails to counter the tension mechanically, causing the cracks.






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    Water freezing into ice EXPANDS. ($ce{H2O}$ is most dense at $pu{4^circ C = 39^circ F}$) - https://sciencestruck.com/density-of-water. In other words, water expands BOTH as it cools below $pu{4^circ C}$, AND as it warms above $pu{4^circ C}$.



    When you pour a (warmer) liquid over the ice, it CONTRACTS as it warms up towards $pu{4^circ C}$, then expands again as it warms above $pu{4^circ C}$. Since ice is a brittle solid crystal lattice, it cracks as it is forced to contract and expand as the warmer liquid warms up the ice.



    (You can see the expansion of $ce{H2O}$ as it freezes - notice in an ice tray, or a hose, it expands as it freezes. If you freeze water in a glass, it will break the glass.)






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    I believe the ice cracked due to residual strains from freezing. Since ice freezes from the outside inward and it expands as it freezes, that as the inner water freezes, it imparts a tensile force on the surrounding ice (like the opposite effect of tempering glass). As the warm liquid removes ice, the cross sectional area under tension decreases while the tensile force remains the same, causing an increase in stress. Once the stress reaches a certain point, the ice fails to counter the tension mechanically, causing the cracks.






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      I believe the ice cracked due to residual strains from freezing. Since ice freezes from the outside inward and it expands as it freezes, that as the inner water freezes, it imparts a tensile force on the surrounding ice (like the opposite effect of tempering glass). As the warm liquid removes ice, the cross sectional area under tension decreases while the tensile force remains the same, causing an increase in stress. Once the stress reaches a certain point, the ice fails to counter the tension mechanically, causing the cracks.






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        I believe the ice cracked due to residual strains from freezing. Since ice freezes from the outside inward and it expands as it freezes, that as the inner water freezes, it imparts a tensile force on the surrounding ice (like the opposite effect of tempering glass). As the warm liquid removes ice, the cross sectional area under tension decreases while the tensile force remains the same, causing an increase in stress. Once the stress reaches a certain point, the ice fails to counter the tension mechanically, causing the cracks.






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        I believe the ice cracked due to residual strains from freezing. Since ice freezes from the outside inward and it expands as it freezes, that as the inner water freezes, it imparts a tensile force on the surrounding ice (like the opposite effect of tempering glass). As the warm liquid removes ice, the cross sectional area under tension decreases while the tensile force remains the same, causing an increase in stress. Once the stress reaches a certain point, the ice fails to counter the tension mechanically, causing the cracks.







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            Water freezing into ice EXPANDS. ($ce{H2O}$ is most dense at $pu{4^circ C = 39^circ F}$) - https://sciencestruck.com/density-of-water. In other words, water expands BOTH as it cools below $pu{4^circ C}$, AND as it warms above $pu{4^circ C}$.



            When you pour a (warmer) liquid over the ice, it CONTRACTS as it warms up towards $pu{4^circ C}$, then expands again as it warms above $pu{4^circ C}$. Since ice is a brittle solid crystal lattice, it cracks as it is forced to contract and expand as the warmer liquid warms up the ice.



            (You can see the expansion of $ce{H2O}$ as it freezes - notice in an ice tray, or a hose, it expands as it freezes. If you freeze water in a glass, it will break the glass.)






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              I'm not sure how this is an answer. If the Ice goes above $pu{0^circ C}$ then it would be a liquid. COuld you revise this answer to be more descriptive?
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            Water freezing into ice EXPANDS. ($ce{H2O}$ is most dense at $pu{4^circ C = 39^circ F}$) - https://sciencestruck.com/density-of-water. In other words, water expands BOTH as it cools below $pu{4^circ C}$, AND as it warms above $pu{4^circ C}$.



            When you pour a (warmer) liquid over the ice, it CONTRACTS as it warms up towards $pu{4^circ C}$, then expands again as it warms above $pu{4^circ C}$. Since ice is a brittle solid crystal lattice, it cracks as it is forced to contract and expand as the warmer liquid warms up the ice.



            (You can see the expansion of $ce{H2O}$ as it freezes - notice in an ice tray, or a hose, it expands as it freezes. If you freeze water in a glass, it will break the glass.)






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              I'm not sure how this is an answer. If the Ice goes above $pu{0^circ C}$ then it would be a liquid. COuld you revise this answer to be more descriptive?
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            Water freezing into ice EXPANDS. ($ce{H2O}$ is most dense at $pu{4^circ C = 39^circ F}$) - https://sciencestruck.com/density-of-water. In other words, water expands BOTH as it cools below $pu{4^circ C}$, AND as it warms above $pu{4^circ C}$.



            When you pour a (warmer) liquid over the ice, it CONTRACTS as it warms up towards $pu{4^circ C}$, then expands again as it warms above $pu{4^circ C}$. Since ice is a brittle solid crystal lattice, it cracks as it is forced to contract and expand as the warmer liquid warms up the ice.



            (You can see the expansion of $ce{H2O}$ as it freezes - notice in an ice tray, or a hose, it expands as it freezes. If you freeze water in a glass, it will break the glass.)






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            Water freezing into ice EXPANDS. ($ce{H2O}$ is most dense at $pu{4^circ C = 39^circ F}$) - https://sciencestruck.com/density-of-water. In other words, water expands BOTH as it cools below $pu{4^circ C}$, AND as it warms above $pu{4^circ C}$.



            When you pour a (warmer) liquid over the ice, it CONTRACTS as it warms up towards $pu{4^circ C}$, then expands again as it warms above $pu{4^circ C}$. Since ice is a brittle solid crystal lattice, it cracks as it is forced to contract and expand as the warmer liquid warms up the ice.



            (You can see the expansion of $ce{H2O}$ as it freezes - notice in an ice tray, or a hose, it expands as it freezes. If you freeze water in a glass, it will break the glass.)







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              I'm not sure how this is an answer. If the Ice goes above $pu{0^circ C}$ then it would be a liquid. COuld you revise this answer to be more descriptive?
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              I'm not sure how this is an answer. If the Ice goes above $pu{0^circ C}$ then it would be a liquid. COuld you revise this answer to be more descriptive?
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            I'm not sure how this is an answer. If the Ice goes above $pu{0^circ C}$ then it would be a liquid. COuld you revise this answer to be more descriptive?
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