How should I solve this integral with changing parameters?
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I can't solve this. How should I proceed?
$$iint_De^{largefrac{y-x}{y+x}}mathrm dxmathrm dy$$
$D$ is the triangle with these coordinates $(0,0), (0,2), (2,0)$ and I've changed the parameters this way $u=y-x$ and $v= y+x$ and the Jacobian is $-1/2$ but I have problem finding the range of $u$ and $v$ to calculate the integral
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I can't solve this. How should I proceed?
$$iint_De^{largefrac{y-x}{y+x}}mathrm dxmathrm dy$$
$D$ is the triangle with these coordinates $(0,0), (0,2), (2,0)$ and I've changed the parameters this way $u=y-x$ and $v= y+x$ and the Jacobian is $-1/2$ but I have problem finding the range of $u$ and $v$ to calculate the integral
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I can't solve this. How should I proceed?
$$iint_De^{largefrac{y-x}{y+x}}mathrm dxmathrm dy$$
$D$ is the triangle with these coordinates $(0,0), (0,2), (2,0)$ and I've changed the parameters this way $u=y-x$ and $v= y+x$ and the Jacobian is $-1/2$ but I have problem finding the range of $u$ and $v$ to calculate the integral
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I can't solve this. How should I proceed?
$$iint_De^{largefrac{y-x}{y+x}}mathrm dxmathrm dy$$
$D$ is the triangle with these coordinates $(0,0), (0,2), (2,0)$ and I've changed the parameters this way $u=y-x$ and $v= y+x$ and the Jacobian is $-1/2$ but I have problem finding the range of $u$ and $v$ to calculate the integral
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Start by making a drawing of your domain. You can see that the $v$ is along the diagonal in the first quadrant, and $u$ is along the diagonal in the second quadrant. You can also see that the line between $(0,2)$ and $(2,0)$ is parallel to $u$, and intersects $v$ axis at $v=1$. So $v$ varies between $0$ and $1$ and $u$ varies between $-v$ and $v$.
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Your domain is $$D={(x,y):0<x<2,,,0<y<2,,,x+y<2}$$
Using change of variables $(x,y)to(u,v)$ with $$u=frac{x-y}{x+y},,,v=x+y$$
The region is now $$R={(u,v):-1<u<1,,0<v<2}$$
Therefore,
begin{align}
iint_D expleft({-frac{x-y}{x+y}}right),mathrm{d}x,mathrm{d}y&=frac{1}{2}iint_R ve^{-u},mathrm{d}u,mathrm{d}v
\\&=frac{1}{2}int_0^2v,mathrm{d}vint_{-1}^1 e^{-u},mathrm{d}u
end{align}
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Finally the $v$ appears, but with no explanation at all?
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– NickD
33 mins ago
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@NickD I have left the calculation of the jacobian to the OP.
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– StubbornAtom
30 mins ago
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That's fine, but you should at least mention it, if only for the sake of future readers.
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– NickD
25 mins ago
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It is pretty clear as it is, I think.
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24 mins ago
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Computer algebra gives (for the general case):
$$e left(x^2 text{Ei}left(-frac{2 x}{x+y}right)-frac{y^2 text{Ei}left(frac{2
y}{x+y}right)}{e^2}right)+frac{1}{2} e^{1-frac{2 x}{x+y}} (x+y)^2$$
over your specified region:
$$e-frac{1}{e}$$
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yes the final answer is right due to my answer sheet but i should solve this by hand not computer any idea of how should i solve this on paper?
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– khoshrang
1 hour ago
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(-1) because this is not an answer to the question. See the other excellent responses!
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Start by making a drawing of your domain. You can see that the $v$ is along the diagonal in the first quadrant, and $u$ is along the diagonal in the second quadrant. You can also see that the line between $(0,2)$ and $(2,0)$ is parallel to $u$, and intersects $v$ axis at $v=1$. So $v$ varies between $0$ and $1$ and $u$ varies between $-v$ and $v$.
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Start by making a drawing of your domain. You can see that the $v$ is along the diagonal in the first quadrant, and $u$ is along the diagonal in the second quadrant. You can also see that the line between $(0,2)$ and $(2,0)$ is parallel to $u$, and intersects $v$ axis at $v=1$. So $v$ varies between $0$ and $1$ and $u$ varies between $-v$ and $v$.
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Start by making a drawing of your domain. You can see that the $v$ is along the diagonal in the first quadrant, and $u$ is along the diagonal in the second quadrant. You can also see that the line between $(0,2)$ and $(2,0)$ is parallel to $u$, and intersects $v$ axis at $v=1$. So $v$ varies between $0$ and $1$ and $u$ varies between $-v$ and $v$.
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Start by making a drawing of your domain. You can see that the $v$ is along the diagonal in the first quadrant, and $u$ is along the diagonal in the second quadrant. You can also see that the line between $(0,2)$ and $(2,0)$ is parallel to $u$, and intersects $v$ axis at $v=1$. So $v$ varies between $0$ and $1$ and $u$ varies between $-v$ and $v$.
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Your domain is $$D={(x,y):0<x<2,,,0<y<2,,,x+y<2}$$
Using change of variables $(x,y)to(u,v)$ with $$u=frac{x-y}{x+y},,,v=x+y$$
The region is now $$R={(u,v):-1<u<1,,0<v<2}$$
Therefore,
begin{align}
iint_D expleft({-frac{x-y}{x+y}}right),mathrm{d}x,mathrm{d}y&=frac{1}{2}iint_R ve^{-u},mathrm{d}u,mathrm{d}v
\\&=frac{1}{2}int_0^2v,mathrm{d}vint_{-1}^1 e^{-u},mathrm{d}u
end{align}
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Finally the $v$ appears, but with no explanation at all?
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– NickD
33 mins ago
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@NickD I have left the calculation of the jacobian to the OP.
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– StubbornAtom
30 mins ago
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That's fine, but you should at least mention it, if only for the sake of future readers.
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– NickD
25 mins ago
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It is pretty clear as it is, I think.
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– StubbornAtom
24 mins ago
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Your domain is $$D={(x,y):0<x<2,,,0<y<2,,,x+y<2}$$
Using change of variables $(x,y)to(u,v)$ with $$u=frac{x-y}{x+y},,,v=x+y$$
The region is now $$R={(u,v):-1<u<1,,0<v<2}$$
Therefore,
begin{align}
iint_D expleft({-frac{x-y}{x+y}}right),mathrm{d}x,mathrm{d}y&=frac{1}{2}iint_R ve^{-u},mathrm{d}u,mathrm{d}v
\\&=frac{1}{2}int_0^2v,mathrm{d}vint_{-1}^1 e^{-u},mathrm{d}u
end{align}
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Finally the $v$ appears, but with no explanation at all?
$endgroup$
– NickD
33 mins ago
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@NickD I have left the calculation of the jacobian to the OP.
$endgroup$
– StubbornAtom
30 mins ago
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That's fine, but you should at least mention it, if only for the sake of future readers.
$endgroup$
– NickD
25 mins ago
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It is pretty clear as it is, I think.
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– StubbornAtom
24 mins ago
add a comment |
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Your domain is $$D={(x,y):0<x<2,,,0<y<2,,,x+y<2}$$
Using change of variables $(x,y)to(u,v)$ with $$u=frac{x-y}{x+y},,,v=x+y$$
The region is now $$R={(u,v):-1<u<1,,0<v<2}$$
Therefore,
begin{align}
iint_D expleft({-frac{x-y}{x+y}}right),mathrm{d}x,mathrm{d}y&=frac{1}{2}iint_R ve^{-u},mathrm{d}u,mathrm{d}v
\\&=frac{1}{2}int_0^2v,mathrm{d}vint_{-1}^1 e^{-u},mathrm{d}u
end{align}
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Your domain is $$D={(x,y):0<x<2,,,0<y<2,,,x+y<2}$$
Using change of variables $(x,y)to(u,v)$ with $$u=frac{x-y}{x+y},,,v=x+y$$
The region is now $$R={(u,v):-1<u<1,,0<v<2}$$
Therefore,
begin{align}
iint_D expleft({-frac{x-y}{x+y}}right),mathrm{d}x,mathrm{d}y&=frac{1}{2}iint_R ve^{-u},mathrm{d}u,mathrm{d}v
\\&=frac{1}{2}int_0^2v,mathrm{d}vint_{-1}^1 e^{-u},mathrm{d}u
end{align}
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answered 54 mins ago
StubbornAtomStubbornAtom
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Finally the $v$ appears, but with no explanation at all?
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– NickD
33 mins ago
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@NickD I have left the calculation of the jacobian to the OP.
$endgroup$
– StubbornAtom
30 mins ago
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That's fine, but you should at least mention it, if only for the sake of future readers.
$endgroup$
– NickD
25 mins ago
$begingroup$
It is pretty clear as it is, I think.
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– StubbornAtom
24 mins ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Finally the $v$ appears, but with no explanation at all?
$endgroup$
– NickD
33 mins ago
$begingroup$
@NickD I have left the calculation of the jacobian to the OP.
$endgroup$
– StubbornAtom
30 mins ago
$begingroup$
That's fine, but you should at least mention it, if only for the sake of future readers.
$endgroup$
– NickD
25 mins ago
$begingroup$
It is pretty clear as it is, I think.
$endgroup$
– StubbornAtom
24 mins ago
$begingroup$
Finally the $v$ appears, but with no explanation at all?
$endgroup$
– NickD
33 mins ago
$begingroup$
Finally the $v$ appears, but with no explanation at all?
$endgroup$
– NickD
33 mins ago
$begingroup$
@NickD I have left the calculation of the jacobian to the OP.
$endgroup$
– StubbornAtom
30 mins ago
$begingroup$
@NickD I have left the calculation of the jacobian to the OP.
$endgroup$
– StubbornAtom
30 mins ago
$begingroup$
That's fine, but you should at least mention it, if only for the sake of future readers.
$endgroup$
– NickD
25 mins ago
$begingroup$
That's fine, but you should at least mention it, if only for the sake of future readers.
$endgroup$
– NickD
25 mins ago
$begingroup$
It is pretty clear as it is, I think.
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– StubbornAtom
24 mins ago
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It is pretty clear as it is, I think.
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– StubbornAtom
24 mins ago
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Computer algebra gives (for the general case):
$$e left(x^2 text{Ei}left(-frac{2 x}{x+y}right)-frac{y^2 text{Ei}left(frac{2
y}{x+y}right)}{e^2}right)+frac{1}{2} e^{1-frac{2 x}{x+y}} (x+y)^2$$
over your specified region:
$$e-frac{1}{e}$$
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yes the final answer is right due to my answer sheet but i should solve this by hand not computer any idea of how should i solve this on paper?
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– khoshrang
1 hour ago
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(-1) because this is not an answer to the question. See the other excellent responses!
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– Jimmy Sabater
9 mins ago
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Computer algebra gives (for the general case):
$$e left(x^2 text{Ei}left(-frac{2 x}{x+y}right)-frac{y^2 text{Ei}left(frac{2
y}{x+y}right)}{e^2}right)+frac{1}{2} e^{1-frac{2 x}{x+y}} (x+y)^2$$
over your specified region:
$$e-frac{1}{e}$$
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$begingroup$
yes the final answer is right due to my answer sheet but i should solve this by hand not computer any idea of how should i solve this on paper?
$endgroup$
– khoshrang
1 hour ago
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(-1) because this is not an answer to the question. See the other excellent responses!
$endgroup$
– Jimmy Sabater
9 mins ago
add a comment |
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Computer algebra gives (for the general case):
$$e left(x^2 text{Ei}left(-frac{2 x}{x+y}right)-frac{y^2 text{Ei}left(frac{2
y}{x+y}right)}{e^2}right)+frac{1}{2} e^{1-frac{2 x}{x+y}} (x+y)^2$$
over your specified region:
$$e-frac{1}{e}$$
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Computer algebra gives (for the general case):
$$e left(x^2 text{Ei}left(-frac{2 x}{x+y}right)-frac{y^2 text{Ei}left(frac{2
y}{x+y}right)}{e^2}right)+frac{1}{2} e^{1-frac{2 x}{x+y}} (x+y)^2$$
over your specified region:
$$e-frac{1}{e}$$
answered 1 hour ago
David G. StorkDavid G. Stork
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yes the final answer is right due to my answer sheet but i should solve this by hand not computer any idea of how should i solve this on paper?
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– khoshrang
1 hour ago
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(-1) because this is not an answer to the question. See the other excellent responses!
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– Jimmy Sabater
9 mins ago
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yes the final answer is right due to my answer sheet but i should solve this by hand not computer any idea of how should i solve this on paper?
$endgroup$
– khoshrang
1 hour ago
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(-1) because this is not an answer to the question. See the other excellent responses!
$endgroup$
– Jimmy Sabater
9 mins ago
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yes the final answer is right due to my answer sheet but i should solve this by hand not computer any idea of how should i solve this on paper?
$endgroup$
– khoshrang
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
yes the final answer is right due to my answer sheet but i should solve this by hand not computer any idea of how should i solve this on paper?
$endgroup$
– khoshrang
1 hour ago
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(-1) because this is not an answer to the question. See the other excellent responses!
$endgroup$
– Jimmy Sabater
9 mins ago
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(-1) because this is not an answer to the question. See the other excellent responses!
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– Jimmy Sabater
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