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In the exercises of thirds instead of playing it 1/3 2/4 3/5 can I play it 1/3 2/4 1/5 or it's not advisable? It's really hard for me to raise the fourth finger when going to play 3/5; are there exercises for that part to make you easily move from 2/4 to 3/5 smoothly and legato?



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    Are you trying to play just the first three, or a complete octave? Fingering for anything is not sacrosanct - you must use what you are comfortable with.THERE ARE NO RULES!!!

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  • When I sat the first time on a drawbar I wonderd how I could play the sixth tone of the doremi as I had only five fingers. Was I alloud to move my pinky finger from g to a?

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In the exercises of thirds instead of playing it 1/3 2/4 3/5 can I play it 1/3 2/4 1/5 or it's not advisable? It's really hard for me to raise the fourth finger when going to play 3/5; are there exercises for that part to make you easily move from 2/4 to 3/5 smoothly and legato?



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    Are you trying to play just the first three, or a complete octave? Fingering for anything is not sacrosanct - you must use what you are comfortable with.THERE ARE NO RULES!!!

    – Tim
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  • When I sat the first time on a drawbar I wonderd how I could play the sixth tone of the doremi as I had only five fingers. Was I alloud to move my pinky finger from g to a?

    – Albrecht Hügli
    52 mins ago
















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In the exercises of thirds instead of playing it 1/3 2/4 3/5 can I play it 1/3 2/4 1/5 or it's not advisable? It's really hard for me to raise the fourth finger when going to play 3/5; are there exercises for that part to make you easily move from 2/4 to 3/5 smoothly and legato?



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In the exercises of thirds instead of playing it 1/3 2/4 3/5 can I play it 1/3 2/4 1/5 or it's not advisable? It's really hard for me to raise the fourth finger when going to play 3/5; are there exercises for that part to make you easily move from 2/4 to 3/5 smoothly and legato?



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    Are you trying to play just the first three, or a complete octave? Fingering for anything is not sacrosanct - you must use what you are comfortable with.THERE ARE NO RULES!!!

    – Tim
    4 hours ago













  • When I sat the first time on a drawbar I wonderd how I could play the sixth tone of the doremi as I had only five fingers. Was I alloud to move my pinky finger from g to a?

    – Albrecht Hügli
    52 mins ago
















  • 2





    Are you trying to play just the first three, or a complete octave? Fingering for anything is not sacrosanct - you must use what you are comfortable with.THERE ARE NO RULES!!!

    – Tim
    4 hours ago













  • When I sat the first time on a drawbar I wonderd how I could play the sixth tone of the doremi as I had only five fingers. Was I alloud to move my pinky finger from g to a?

    – Albrecht Hügli
    52 mins ago










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Are you trying to play just the first three, or a complete octave? Fingering for anything is not sacrosanct - you must use what you are comfortable with.THERE ARE NO RULES!!!

– Tim
4 hours ago







Are you trying to play just the first three, or a complete octave? Fingering for anything is not sacrosanct - you must use what you are comfortable with.THERE ARE NO RULES!!!

– Tim
4 hours ago















When I sat the first time on a drawbar I wonderd how I could play the sixth tone of the doremi as I had only five fingers. Was I alloud to move my pinky finger from g to a?

– Albrecht Hügli
52 mins ago







When I sat the first time on a drawbar I wonderd how I could play the sixth tone of the doremi as I had only five fingers. Was I alloud to move my pinky finger from g to a?

– Albrecht Hügli
52 mins ago












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Whatever you are playing on piano, it is important to plan out the fingering so that you get the articulation you want and are able to get to what follows easily. The exact fingering is going to be dependent on the context of the piece, in combination with what works for your hand. It is advisable to try out different fingering options to decide what is best.






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    All fingering is flexible!



    BUT, in a passage of 3rds, confined to the '5-finger position' you need a pretty good reason NOT to use 1-3, 2-4, 3-5. And 'I'm a beginner, and I find it hard to lift my 4th finger' isn't a good reason!



    It sounds as if you're playing an exercise that covers that problem already! Stick with it. Check with your teacher that your arm, hand and finger positions are correct.






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      Take a look here as an example - Chopin, Etude #6 gis-moll. This is just a reference, there are a couple of ways, I think Liszt had his own way. As another reference, you can take a look at Czerny's 'The Art of Finger Dexterity', op 740 #10






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        Carl Philip Emanuel Bach offers always different fingersettings and if he didn’t ... I would! Because I think the purpose to be be able to play a piece in a comfortable way and enjoy playing is as important to train the independence of each finger. Not every piano player has the aim to become a professional pianist. The joy of making music should be in a positive balance with finger training.






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          Whatever you are playing on piano, it is important to plan out the fingering so that you get the articulation you want and are able to get to what follows easily. The exact fingering is going to be dependent on the context of the piece, in combination with what works for your hand. It is advisable to try out different fingering options to decide what is best.






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            Whatever you are playing on piano, it is important to plan out the fingering so that you get the articulation you want and are able to get to what follows easily. The exact fingering is going to be dependent on the context of the piece, in combination with what works for your hand. It is advisable to try out different fingering options to decide what is best.






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              Whatever you are playing on piano, it is important to plan out the fingering so that you get the articulation you want and are able to get to what follows easily. The exact fingering is going to be dependent on the context of the piece, in combination with what works for your hand. It is advisable to try out different fingering options to decide what is best.






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              Whatever you are playing on piano, it is important to plan out the fingering so that you get the articulation you want and are able to get to what follows easily. The exact fingering is going to be dependent on the context of the piece, in combination with what works for your hand. It is advisable to try out different fingering options to decide what is best.







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                  All fingering is flexible!



                  BUT, in a passage of 3rds, confined to the '5-finger position' you need a pretty good reason NOT to use 1-3, 2-4, 3-5. And 'I'm a beginner, and I find it hard to lift my 4th finger' isn't a good reason!



                  It sounds as if you're playing an exercise that covers that problem already! Stick with it. Check with your teacher that your arm, hand and finger positions are correct.






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                    All fingering is flexible!



                    BUT, in a passage of 3rds, confined to the '5-finger position' you need a pretty good reason NOT to use 1-3, 2-4, 3-5. And 'I'm a beginner, and I find it hard to lift my 4th finger' isn't a good reason!



                    It sounds as if you're playing an exercise that covers that problem already! Stick with it. Check with your teacher that your arm, hand and finger positions are correct.






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                      All fingering is flexible!



                      BUT, in a passage of 3rds, confined to the '5-finger position' you need a pretty good reason NOT to use 1-3, 2-4, 3-5. And 'I'm a beginner, and I find it hard to lift my 4th finger' isn't a good reason!



                      It sounds as if you're playing an exercise that covers that problem already! Stick with it. Check with your teacher that your arm, hand and finger positions are correct.






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                      All fingering is flexible!



                      BUT, in a passage of 3rds, confined to the '5-finger position' you need a pretty good reason NOT to use 1-3, 2-4, 3-5. And 'I'm a beginner, and I find it hard to lift my 4th finger' isn't a good reason!



                      It sounds as if you're playing an exercise that covers that problem already! Stick with it. Check with your teacher that your arm, hand and finger positions are correct.







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                          Take a look here as an example - Chopin, Etude #6 gis-moll. This is just a reference, there are a couple of ways, I think Liszt had his own way. As another reference, you can take a look at Czerny's 'The Art of Finger Dexterity', op 740 #10






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                            Take a look here as an example - Chopin, Etude #6 gis-moll. This is just a reference, there are a couple of ways, I think Liszt had his own way. As another reference, you can take a look at Czerny's 'The Art of Finger Dexterity', op 740 #10






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                              Take a look here as an example - Chopin, Etude #6 gis-moll. This is just a reference, there are a couple of ways, I think Liszt had his own way. As another reference, you can take a look at Czerny's 'The Art of Finger Dexterity', op 740 #10






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                              Take a look here as an example - Chopin, Etude #6 gis-moll. This is just a reference, there are a couple of ways, I think Liszt had his own way. As another reference, you can take a look at Czerny's 'The Art of Finger Dexterity', op 740 #10







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                                  Carl Philip Emanuel Bach offers always different fingersettings and if he didn’t ... I would! Because I think the purpose to be be able to play a piece in a comfortable way and enjoy playing is as important to train the independence of each finger. Not every piano player has the aim to become a professional pianist. The joy of making music should be in a positive balance with finger training.






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                                    Carl Philip Emanuel Bach offers always different fingersettings and if he didn’t ... I would! Because I think the purpose to be be able to play a piece in a comfortable way and enjoy playing is as important to train the independence of each finger. Not every piano player has the aim to become a professional pianist. The joy of making music should be in a positive balance with finger training.






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                                      Carl Philip Emanuel Bach offers always different fingersettings and if he didn’t ... I would! Because I think the purpose to be be able to play a piece in a comfortable way and enjoy playing is as important to train the independence of each finger. Not every piano player has the aim to become a professional pianist. The joy of making music should be in a positive balance with finger training.






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                                      Carl Philip Emanuel Bach offers always different fingersettings and if he didn’t ... I would! Because I think the purpose to be be able to play a piece in a comfortable way and enjoy playing is as important to train the independence of each finger. Not every piano player has the aim to become a professional pianist. The joy of making music should be in a positive balance with finger training.







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