What kind of science could be done in a station orbiting black hole












5












$begingroup$


I am writing a script for science fiction RPG where everything takes place in a science station orbiting a black hole just outside the Schwarzschild radius. But it occurred to me I have no idea what kind of scientific experiments or observations would need such a station. We can't receive any data from the blackhole anyway.



So, would such station have a purpose? What kind of experiments could scientists perform there that they couldn't anywhere else in Space? What kind of (current) hypothesis could they test? What kind of observations they could perform? Does the kind/size of black hole matter in this respect? Thanks a bunch!










share|improve this question







New contributor




Godfrey of Bouillon is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.







$endgroup$








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Hi and welcome to Worldbuilding! I can think of plenty of things to experiment, for example, throw a wireless camera, the most expensive one that can capture everything clearly at great distances, into the black hole, this way we can have answer on what really happens when a object enters a black hole. Would you mind if you put something specific? What experiments do you want to happen, are you asking a list of experiments? because that would be broad. This site is one question one answer only if you may.
    $endgroup$
    – Mr.J
    6 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Hello and welcome. Please be more specific and focus on a single question. Currently, the many questions you are asking are simpley too broad.
    $endgroup$
    – Alex2006
    5 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Also: what relevant information did you include so far that might give an idea of what direction you would like your story to go? Is it a team of scientists experiencing increasingly disturbing phenomena? Does the black hole have unforeseen psychological consequences? Will your protagonist have to enter the black hole at some time?
    $endgroup$
    – Joachim
    5 hours ago
















5












$begingroup$


I am writing a script for science fiction RPG where everything takes place in a science station orbiting a black hole just outside the Schwarzschild radius. But it occurred to me I have no idea what kind of scientific experiments or observations would need such a station. We can't receive any data from the blackhole anyway.



So, would such station have a purpose? What kind of experiments could scientists perform there that they couldn't anywhere else in Space? What kind of (current) hypothesis could they test? What kind of observations they could perform? Does the kind/size of black hole matter in this respect? Thanks a bunch!










share|improve this question







New contributor




Godfrey of Bouillon is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.







$endgroup$








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Hi and welcome to Worldbuilding! I can think of plenty of things to experiment, for example, throw a wireless camera, the most expensive one that can capture everything clearly at great distances, into the black hole, this way we can have answer on what really happens when a object enters a black hole. Would you mind if you put something specific? What experiments do you want to happen, are you asking a list of experiments? because that would be broad. This site is one question one answer only if you may.
    $endgroup$
    – Mr.J
    6 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Hello and welcome. Please be more specific and focus on a single question. Currently, the many questions you are asking are simpley too broad.
    $endgroup$
    – Alex2006
    5 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Also: what relevant information did you include so far that might give an idea of what direction you would like your story to go? Is it a team of scientists experiencing increasingly disturbing phenomena? Does the black hole have unforeseen psychological consequences? Will your protagonist have to enter the black hole at some time?
    $endgroup$
    – Joachim
    5 hours ago














5












5








5





$begingroup$


I am writing a script for science fiction RPG where everything takes place in a science station orbiting a black hole just outside the Schwarzschild radius. But it occurred to me I have no idea what kind of scientific experiments or observations would need such a station. We can't receive any data from the blackhole anyway.



So, would such station have a purpose? What kind of experiments could scientists perform there that they couldn't anywhere else in Space? What kind of (current) hypothesis could they test? What kind of observations they could perform? Does the kind/size of black hole matter in this respect? Thanks a bunch!










share|improve this question







New contributor




Godfrey of Bouillon is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.







$endgroup$




I am writing a script for science fiction RPG where everything takes place in a science station orbiting a black hole just outside the Schwarzschild radius. But it occurred to me I have no idea what kind of scientific experiments or observations would need such a station. We can't receive any data from the blackhole anyway.



So, would such station have a purpose? What kind of experiments could scientists perform there that they couldn't anywhere else in Space? What kind of (current) hypothesis could they test? What kind of observations they could perform? Does the kind/size of black hole matter in this respect? Thanks a bunch!







science-based space-constructs science scientific-development






share|improve this question







New contributor




Godfrey of Bouillon is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.











share|improve this question







New contributor




Godfrey of Bouillon is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.









share|improve this question




share|improve this question






New contributor




Godfrey of Bouillon is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.









asked 6 hours ago









Godfrey of BouillonGodfrey of Bouillon

261




261




New contributor




Godfrey of Bouillon is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.





New contributor





Godfrey of Bouillon is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.






Godfrey of Bouillon is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Hi and welcome to Worldbuilding! I can think of plenty of things to experiment, for example, throw a wireless camera, the most expensive one that can capture everything clearly at great distances, into the black hole, this way we can have answer on what really happens when a object enters a black hole. Would you mind if you put something specific? What experiments do you want to happen, are you asking a list of experiments? because that would be broad. This site is one question one answer only if you may.
    $endgroup$
    – Mr.J
    6 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Hello and welcome. Please be more specific and focus on a single question. Currently, the many questions you are asking are simpley too broad.
    $endgroup$
    – Alex2006
    5 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Also: what relevant information did you include so far that might give an idea of what direction you would like your story to go? Is it a team of scientists experiencing increasingly disturbing phenomena? Does the black hole have unforeseen psychological consequences? Will your protagonist have to enter the black hole at some time?
    $endgroup$
    – Joachim
    5 hours ago














  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Hi and welcome to Worldbuilding! I can think of plenty of things to experiment, for example, throw a wireless camera, the most expensive one that can capture everything clearly at great distances, into the black hole, this way we can have answer on what really happens when a object enters a black hole. Would you mind if you put something specific? What experiments do you want to happen, are you asking a list of experiments? because that would be broad. This site is one question one answer only if you may.
    $endgroup$
    – Mr.J
    6 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Hello and welcome. Please be more specific and focus on a single question. Currently, the many questions you are asking are simpley too broad.
    $endgroup$
    – Alex2006
    5 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Also: what relevant information did you include so far that might give an idea of what direction you would like your story to go? Is it a team of scientists experiencing increasingly disturbing phenomena? Does the black hole have unforeseen psychological consequences? Will your protagonist have to enter the black hole at some time?
    $endgroup$
    – Joachim
    5 hours ago








1




1




$begingroup$
Hi and welcome to Worldbuilding! I can think of plenty of things to experiment, for example, throw a wireless camera, the most expensive one that can capture everything clearly at great distances, into the black hole, this way we can have answer on what really happens when a object enters a black hole. Would you mind if you put something specific? What experiments do you want to happen, are you asking a list of experiments? because that would be broad. This site is one question one answer only if you may.
$endgroup$
– Mr.J
6 hours ago




$begingroup$
Hi and welcome to Worldbuilding! I can think of plenty of things to experiment, for example, throw a wireless camera, the most expensive one that can capture everything clearly at great distances, into the black hole, this way we can have answer on what really happens when a object enters a black hole. Would you mind if you put something specific? What experiments do you want to happen, are you asking a list of experiments? because that would be broad. This site is one question one answer only if you may.
$endgroup$
– Mr.J
6 hours ago












$begingroup$
Hello and welcome. Please be more specific and focus on a single question. Currently, the many questions you are asking are simpley too broad.
$endgroup$
– Alex2006
5 hours ago




$begingroup$
Hello and welcome. Please be more specific and focus on a single question. Currently, the many questions you are asking are simpley too broad.
$endgroup$
– Alex2006
5 hours ago












$begingroup$
Also: what relevant information did you include so far that might give an idea of what direction you would like your story to go? Is it a team of scientists experiencing increasingly disturbing phenomena? Does the black hole have unforeseen psychological consequences? Will your protagonist have to enter the black hole at some time?
$endgroup$
– Joachim
5 hours ago




$begingroup$
Also: what relevant information did you include so far that might give an idea of what direction you would like your story to go? Is it a team of scientists experiencing increasingly disturbing phenomena? Does the black hole have unforeseen psychological consequences? Will your protagonist have to enter the black hole at some time?
$endgroup$
– Joachim
5 hours ago










2 Answers
2






active

oldest

votes


















5












$begingroup$

Hawkins radiation observation



Stuff does come out of black holes.




Hawking radiation is blackbody radiation that is predicted to be released by black holes, due to quantum effects near the event horizon. It is named after the physicist Stephen Hawking, who provided a theoretical argument for its existence in 1974.




Lots of science and new discoveries to be made from those.



High energy experiments



Ditch those particle colliders on Earth. Some black holes have accretion discs that output a lot of energy.




(...) TON 618 is believed to be an accretion disc of intensely hot gas swirling around a giant black hole in the center of a galaxy. The light originating from the quasar is estimated to be 10.4 billion years old. The surrounding galaxy is not visible from Earth, because the quasar itself outshines it. With an absolute magnitude of −30.7, it shines with a luminosity of 4×1040 watts, or as brilliantly as 140 trillion Suns(...).




But mainly, material science




(...)a science station orbiting a black hole just outside the Schwarzschild radius(...)




Your station is probably made of unobtanium.




In astrophysics, spaghettification (sometimes referred to as the noodle effect) is the vertical stretching and horizontal compression of objects into long thin shapes (rather like spaghetti) in a very strong non-homogeneous gravitational field; it is caused by extreme tidal forces. In the most extreme cases, near black holes, the stretching is so powerful that no object can withstand it, no matter how strong its components(...)




So you may as well play challenge accepted with physics. You will also need the station to generate a handwavium field to keep people and stuff in it from breaking into subatomical particles.






share|improve this answer











$endgroup$













  • $begingroup$
    "Your station is probably made of unobtanium." Not necessarily. If the black hole is sufficiently large, the station could even descend quite a bit past the event horizon before being affected by tidal forces (though of course it would be irreparably doomed).
    $endgroup$
    – AngelPray
    1 min ago



















0












$begingroup$

All Things Gravitic



I'll have to find the researcher who suggested that fluctuating space-time can drastically reduce the energy requirement for gravitic manipulations, such as the Alcubierre FTL drive.



Near a steep, rapidly fluctuating gravity well is exactly where you want to test that. If true, it could result in FTL (or next-generation more power efficient FTL), artificial gravity, gravitic communication, gravitic computation, gravity lasers. In short, all things gravitic.



Quantum Mechanics



And it's important to remember that, from a materials perspective, a singularity is a rapidly spinning grinding wheel composed of soft gel at the far edges and impossibly rock-hard, razor-sharp, space-time as you get closer to the singularity itself.



It might not be necessary to build a huge accelerator to bust subatomic particles. Instead of accelerating particles to near the speed of light and driving them into one another, shoot a particle towards the event horizon at an angle and let the event horizon rip it to shreds. Use an angle sufficiently shallow that the results of the interaction are observable.



Spontaneous Generation of Matter and Anti-Matter



You could observe the spontaneous creation of matter and anti-matter to learn how to produce either or both on-demand at industrial scales.



Looking Inside Color Confinement



At these high-energies it may be possible to look at quarks inside the color confinement properties that keep them quarks from being isolated and studied individually. We suspect a great deal about how the strong nuclear force works, but a lab on the edge of a singularity would open up the ability to test these hypothesis cheaply (it could be done with a large enough terrestrial collider also)



Mass Manipulation



You could use this to perform studies of the Higgs field, and what causes things to have mass. How mass seems to be coupled to gravity can be confirmed and studied in greater detail.



Negative Energy and Negative Mass



If negative mass or negative energy particles are spontaneously created and destroyed in some small amount, a lab on the edge of a black hole is the place to look for them.



The Granularity of Space-Time



So far, all experiments done have indicated that while electro-magnetic and strong/weak nuclear forces have quantum behavior: that is everything has discrete behavior - one unit, two, three...; but space-time itself has appeared in every experiment to be smooth. It may be possible near a singularity to test this smoothness more rigorously. I'm not sure what quantum space-time would prove, but it would change a lot of things.



Compactified Dimensions



It should be possible, under the extreme energy conditions, to construct at least a few experiments to probe compactified dimensions. The math predicts either none, 10, or 11. How many are there, really? Do they exist at all? What does it mean (new ways of storing data at higher densities, communication, travel)?





share









$endgroup$













    Your Answer





    StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
    return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function () {
    StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix) {
    StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
    });
    });
    }, "mathjax-editing");

    StackExchange.ready(function() {
    var channelOptions = {
    tags: "".split(" "),
    id: "579"
    };
    initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

    StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
    // Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
    if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
    StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
    createEditor();
    });
    }
    else {
    createEditor();
    }
    });

    function createEditor() {
    StackExchange.prepareEditor({
    heartbeatType: 'answer',
    autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
    convertImagesToLinks: false,
    noModals: true,
    showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
    reputationToPostImages: null,
    bindNavPrevention: true,
    postfix: "",
    imageUploader: {
    brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
    contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
    allowUrls: true
    },
    noCode: true, onDemand: true,
    discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
    ,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
    });


    }
    });






    Godfrey of Bouillon is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.










    draft saved

    draft discarded


















    StackExchange.ready(
    function () {
    StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fworldbuilding.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f137849%2fwhat-kind-of-science-could-be-done-in-a-station-orbiting-black-hole%23new-answer', 'question_page');
    }
    );

    Post as a guest















    Required, but never shown

























    2 Answers
    2






    active

    oldest

    votes








    2 Answers
    2






    active

    oldest

    votes









    active

    oldest

    votes






    active

    oldest

    votes









    5












    $begingroup$

    Hawkins radiation observation



    Stuff does come out of black holes.




    Hawking radiation is blackbody radiation that is predicted to be released by black holes, due to quantum effects near the event horizon. It is named after the physicist Stephen Hawking, who provided a theoretical argument for its existence in 1974.




    Lots of science and new discoveries to be made from those.



    High energy experiments



    Ditch those particle colliders on Earth. Some black holes have accretion discs that output a lot of energy.




    (...) TON 618 is believed to be an accretion disc of intensely hot gas swirling around a giant black hole in the center of a galaxy. The light originating from the quasar is estimated to be 10.4 billion years old. The surrounding galaxy is not visible from Earth, because the quasar itself outshines it. With an absolute magnitude of −30.7, it shines with a luminosity of 4×1040 watts, or as brilliantly as 140 trillion Suns(...).




    But mainly, material science




    (...)a science station orbiting a black hole just outside the Schwarzschild radius(...)




    Your station is probably made of unobtanium.




    In astrophysics, spaghettification (sometimes referred to as the noodle effect) is the vertical stretching and horizontal compression of objects into long thin shapes (rather like spaghetti) in a very strong non-homogeneous gravitational field; it is caused by extreme tidal forces. In the most extreme cases, near black holes, the stretching is so powerful that no object can withstand it, no matter how strong its components(...)




    So you may as well play challenge accepted with physics. You will also need the station to generate a handwavium field to keep people and stuff in it from breaking into subatomical particles.






    share|improve this answer











    $endgroup$













    • $begingroup$
      "Your station is probably made of unobtanium." Not necessarily. If the black hole is sufficiently large, the station could even descend quite a bit past the event horizon before being affected by tidal forces (though of course it would be irreparably doomed).
      $endgroup$
      – AngelPray
      1 min ago
















    5












    $begingroup$

    Hawkins radiation observation



    Stuff does come out of black holes.




    Hawking radiation is blackbody radiation that is predicted to be released by black holes, due to quantum effects near the event horizon. It is named after the physicist Stephen Hawking, who provided a theoretical argument for its existence in 1974.




    Lots of science and new discoveries to be made from those.



    High energy experiments



    Ditch those particle colliders on Earth. Some black holes have accretion discs that output a lot of energy.




    (...) TON 618 is believed to be an accretion disc of intensely hot gas swirling around a giant black hole in the center of a galaxy. The light originating from the quasar is estimated to be 10.4 billion years old. The surrounding galaxy is not visible from Earth, because the quasar itself outshines it. With an absolute magnitude of −30.7, it shines with a luminosity of 4×1040 watts, or as brilliantly as 140 trillion Suns(...).




    But mainly, material science




    (...)a science station orbiting a black hole just outside the Schwarzschild radius(...)




    Your station is probably made of unobtanium.




    In astrophysics, spaghettification (sometimes referred to as the noodle effect) is the vertical stretching and horizontal compression of objects into long thin shapes (rather like spaghetti) in a very strong non-homogeneous gravitational field; it is caused by extreme tidal forces. In the most extreme cases, near black holes, the stretching is so powerful that no object can withstand it, no matter how strong its components(...)




    So you may as well play challenge accepted with physics. You will also need the station to generate a handwavium field to keep people and stuff in it from breaking into subatomical particles.






    share|improve this answer











    $endgroup$













    • $begingroup$
      "Your station is probably made of unobtanium." Not necessarily. If the black hole is sufficiently large, the station could even descend quite a bit past the event horizon before being affected by tidal forces (though of course it would be irreparably doomed).
      $endgroup$
      – AngelPray
      1 min ago














    5












    5








    5





    $begingroup$

    Hawkins radiation observation



    Stuff does come out of black holes.




    Hawking radiation is blackbody radiation that is predicted to be released by black holes, due to quantum effects near the event horizon. It is named after the physicist Stephen Hawking, who provided a theoretical argument for its existence in 1974.




    Lots of science and new discoveries to be made from those.



    High energy experiments



    Ditch those particle colliders on Earth. Some black holes have accretion discs that output a lot of energy.




    (...) TON 618 is believed to be an accretion disc of intensely hot gas swirling around a giant black hole in the center of a galaxy. The light originating from the quasar is estimated to be 10.4 billion years old. The surrounding galaxy is not visible from Earth, because the quasar itself outshines it. With an absolute magnitude of −30.7, it shines with a luminosity of 4×1040 watts, or as brilliantly as 140 trillion Suns(...).




    But mainly, material science




    (...)a science station orbiting a black hole just outside the Schwarzschild radius(...)




    Your station is probably made of unobtanium.




    In astrophysics, spaghettification (sometimes referred to as the noodle effect) is the vertical stretching and horizontal compression of objects into long thin shapes (rather like spaghetti) in a very strong non-homogeneous gravitational field; it is caused by extreme tidal forces. In the most extreme cases, near black holes, the stretching is so powerful that no object can withstand it, no matter how strong its components(...)




    So you may as well play challenge accepted with physics. You will also need the station to generate a handwavium field to keep people and stuff in it from breaking into subatomical particles.






    share|improve this answer











    $endgroup$



    Hawkins radiation observation



    Stuff does come out of black holes.




    Hawking radiation is blackbody radiation that is predicted to be released by black holes, due to quantum effects near the event horizon. It is named after the physicist Stephen Hawking, who provided a theoretical argument for its existence in 1974.




    Lots of science and new discoveries to be made from those.



    High energy experiments



    Ditch those particle colliders on Earth. Some black holes have accretion discs that output a lot of energy.




    (...) TON 618 is believed to be an accretion disc of intensely hot gas swirling around a giant black hole in the center of a galaxy. The light originating from the quasar is estimated to be 10.4 billion years old. The surrounding galaxy is not visible from Earth, because the quasar itself outshines it. With an absolute magnitude of −30.7, it shines with a luminosity of 4×1040 watts, or as brilliantly as 140 trillion Suns(...).




    But mainly, material science




    (...)a science station orbiting a black hole just outside the Schwarzschild radius(...)




    Your station is probably made of unobtanium.




    In astrophysics, spaghettification (sometimes referred to as the noodle effect) is the vertical stretching and horizontal compression of objects into long thin shapes (rather like spaghetti) in a very strong non-homogeneous gravitational field; it is caused by extreme tidal forces. In the most extreme cases, near black holes, the stretching is so powerful that no object can withstand it, no matter how strong its components(...)




    So you may as well play challenge accepted with physics. You will also need the station to generate a handwavium field to keep people and stuff in it from breaking into subatomical particles.







    share|improve this answer














    share|improve this answer



    share|improve this answer








    edited 33 mins ago

























    answered 5 hours ago









    RenanRenan

    47.4k13110242




    47.4k13110242












    • $begingroup$
      "Your station is probably made of unobtanium." Not necessarily. If the black hole is sufficiently large, the station could even descend quite a bit past the event horizon before being affected by tidal forces (though of course it would be irreparably doomed).
      $endgroup$
      – AngelPray
      1 min ago


















    • $begingroup$
      "Your station is probably made of unobtanium." Not necessarily. If the black hole is sufficiently large, the station could even descend quite a bit past the event horizon before being affected by tidal forces (though of course it would be irreparably doomed).
      $endgroup$
      – AngelPray
      1 min ago
















    $begingroup$
    "Your station is probably made of unobtanium." Not necessarily. If the black hole is sufficiently large, the station could even descend quite a bit past the event horizon before being affected by tidal forces (though of course it would be irreparably doomed).
    $endgroup$
    – AngelPray
    1 min ago




    $begingroup$
    "Your station is probably made of unobtanium." Not necessarily. If the black hole is sufficiently large, the station could even descend quite a bit past the event horizon before being affected by tidal forces (though of course it would be irreparably doomed).
    $endgroup$
    – AngelPray
    1 min ago











    0












    $begingroup$

    All Things Gravitic



    I'll have to find the researcher who suggested that fluctuating space-time can drastically reduce the energy requirement for gravitic manipulations, such as the Alcubierre FTL drive.



    Near a steep, rapidly fluctuating gravity well is exactly where you want to test that. If true, it could result in FTL (or next-generation more power efficient FTL), artificial gravity, gravitic communication, gravitic computation, gravity lasers. In short, all things gravitic.



    Quantum Mechanics



    And it's important to remember that, from a materials perspective, a singularity is a rapidly spinning grinding wheel composed of soft gel at the far edges and impossibly rock-hard, razor-sharp, space-time as you get closer to the singularity itself.



    It might not be necessary to build a huge accelerator to bust subatomic particles. Instead of accelerating particles to near the speed of light and driving them into one another, shoot a particle towards the event horizon at an angle and let the event horizon rip it to shreds. Use an angle sufficiently shallow that the results of the interaction are observable.



    Spontaneous Generation of Matter and Anti-Matter



    You could observe the spontaneous creation of matter and anti-matter to learn how to produce either or both on-demand at industrial scales.



    Looking Inside Color Confinement



    At these high-energies it may be possible to look at quarks inside the color confinement properties that keep them quarks from being isolated and studied individually. We suspect a great deal about how the strong nuclear force works, but a lab on the edge of a singularity would open up the ability to test these hypothesis cheaply (it could be done with a large enough terrestrial collider also)



    Mass Manipulation



    You could use this to perform studies of the Higgs field, and what causes things to have mass. How mass seems to be coupled to gravity can be confirmed and studied in greater detail.



    Negative Energy and Negative Mass



    If negative mass or negative energy particles are spontaneously created and destroyed in some small amount, a lab on the edge of a black hole is the place to look for them.



    The Granularity of Space-Time



    So far, all experiments done have indicated that while electro-magnetic and strong/weak nuclear forces have quantum behavior: that is everything has discrete behavior - one unit, two, three...; but space-time itself has appeared in every experiment to be smooth. It may be possible near a singularity to test this smoothness more rigorously. I'm not sure what quantum space-time would prove, but it would change a lot of things.



    Compactified Dimensions



    It should be possible, under the extreme energy conditions, to construct at least a few experiments to probe compactified dimensions. The math predicts either none, 10, or 11. How many are there, really? Do they exist at all? What does it mean (new ways of storing data at higher densities, communication, travel)?





    share









    $endgroup$


















      0












      $begingroup$

      All Things Gravitic



      I'll have to find the researcher who suggested that fluctuating space-time can drastically reduce the energy requirement for gravitic manipulations, such as the Alcubierre FTL drive.



      Near a steep, rapidly fluctuating gravity well is exactly where you want to test that. If true, it could result in FTL (or next-generation more power efficient FTL), artificial gravity, gravitic communication, gravitic computation, gravity lasers. In short, all things gravitic.



      Quantum Mechanics



      And it's important to remember that, from a materials perspective, a singularity is a rapidly spinning grinding wheel composed of soft gel at the far edges and impossibly rock-hard, razor-sharp, space-time as you get closer to the singularity itself.



      It might not be necessary to build a huge accelerator to bust subatomic particles. Instead of accelerating particles to near the speed of light and driving them into one another, shoot a particle towards the event horizon at an angle and let the event horizon rip it to shreds. Use an angle sufficiently shallow that the results of the interaction are observable.



      Spontaneous Generation of Matter and Anti-Matter



      You could observe the spontaneous creation of matter and anti-matter to learn how to produce either or both on-demand at industrial scales.



      Looking Inside Color Confinement



      At these high-energies it may be possible to look at quarks inside the color confinement properties that keep them quarks from being isolated and studied individually. We suspect a great deal about how the strong nuclear force works, but a lab on the edge of a singularity would open up the ability to test these hypothesis cheaply (it could be done with a large enough terrestrial collider also)



      Mass Manipulation



      You could use this to perform studies of the Higgs field, and what causes things to have mass. How mass seems to be coupled to gravity can be confirmed and studied in greater detail.



      Negative Energy and Negative Mass



      If negative mass or negative energy particles are spontaneously created and destroyed in some small amount, a lab on the edge of a black hole is the place to look for them.



      The Granularity of Space-Time



      So far, all experiments done have indicated that while electro-magnetic and strong/weak nuclear forces have quantum behavior: that is everything has discrete behavior - one unit, two, three...; but space-time itself has appeared in every experiment to be smooth. It may be possible near a singularity to test this smoothness more rigorously. I'm not sure what quantum space-time would prove, but it would change a lot of things.



      Compactified Dimensions



      It should be possible, under the extreme energy conditions, to construct at least a few experiments to probe compactified dimensions. The math predicts either none, 10, or 11. How many are there, really? Do they exist at all? What does it mean (new ways of storing data at higher densities, communication, travel)?





      share









      $endgroup$
















        0












        0








        0





        $begingroup$

        All Things Gravitic



        I'll have to find the researcher who suggested that fluctuating space-time can drastically reduce the energy requirement for gravitic manipulations, such as the Alcubierre FTL drive.



        Near a steep, rapidly fluctuating gravity well is exactly where you want to test that. If true, it could result in FTL (or next-generation more power efficient FTL), artificial gravity, gravitic communication, gravitic computation, gravity lasers. In short, all things gravitic.



        Quantum Mechanics



        And it's important to remember that, from a materials perspective, a singularity is a rapidly spinning grinding wheel composed of soft gel at the far edges and impossibly rock-hard, razor-sharp, space-time as you get closer to the singularity itself.



        It might not be necessary to build a huge accelerator to bust subatomic particles. Instead of accelerating particles to near the speed of light and driving them into one another, shoot a particle towards the event horizon at an angle and let the event horizon rip it to shreds. Use an angle sufficiently shallow that the results of the interaction are observable.



        Spontaneous Generation of Matter and Anti-Matter



        You could observe the spontaneous creation of matter and anti-matter to learn how to produce either or both on-demand at industrial scales.



        Looking Inside Color Confinement



        At these high-energies it may be possible to look at quarks inside the color confinement properties that keep them quarks from being isolated and studied individually. We suspect a great deal about how the strong nuclear force works, but a lab on the edge of a singularity would open up the ability to test these hypothesis cheaply (it could be done with a large enough terrestrial collider also)



        Mass Manipulation



        You could use this to perform studies of the Higgs field, and what causes things to have mass. How mass seems to be coupled to gravity can be confirmed and studied in greater detail.



        Negative Energy and Negative Mass



        If negative mass or negative energy particles are spontaneously created and destroyed in some small amount, a lab on the edge of a black hole is the place to look for them.



        The Granularity of Space-Time



        So far, all experiments done have indicated that while electro-magnetic and strong/weak nuclear forces have quantum behavior: that is everything has discrete behavior - one unit, two, three...; but space-time itself has appeared in every experiment to be smooth. It may be possible near a singularity to test this smoothness more rigorously. I'm not sure what quantum space-time would prove, but it would change a lot of things.



        Compactified Dimensions



        It should be possible, under the extreme energy conditions, to construct at least a few experiments to probe compactified dimensions. The math predicts either none, 10, or 11. How many are there, really? Do they exist at all? What does it mean (new ways of storing data at higher densities, communication, travel)?





        share









        $endgroup$



        All Things Gravitic



        I'll have to find the researcher who suggested that fluctuating space-time can drastically reduce the energy requirement for gravitic manipulations, such as the Alcubierre FTL drive.



        Near a steep, rapidly fluctuating gravity well is exactly where you want to test that. If true, it could result in FTL (or next-generation more power efficient FTL), artificial gravity, gravitic communication, gravitic computation, gravity lasers. In short, all things gravitic.



        Quantum Mechanics



        And it's important to remember that, from a materials perspective, a singularity is a rapidly spinning grinding wheel composed of soft gel at the far edges and impossibly rock-hard, razor-sharp, space-time as you get closer to the singularity itself.



        It might not be necessary to build a huge accelerator to bust subatomic particles. Instead of accelerating particles to near the speed of light and driving them into one another, shoot a particle towards the event horizon at an angle and let the event horizon rip it to shreds. Use an angle sufficiently shallow that the results of the interaction are observable.



        Spontaneous Generation of Matter and Anti-Matter



        You could observe the spontaneous creation of matter and anti-matter to learn how to produce either or both on-demand at industrial scales.



        Looking Inside Color Confinement



        At these high-energies it may be possible to look at quarks inside the color confinement properties that keep them quarks from being isolated and studied individually. We suspect a great deal about how the strong nuclear force works, but a lab on the edge of a singularity would open up the ability to test these hypothesis cheaply (it could be done with a large enough terrestrial collider also)



        Mass Manipulation



        You could use this to perform studies of the Higgs field, and what causes things to have mass. How mass seems to be coupled to gravity can be confirmed and studied in greater detail.



        Negative Energy and Negative Mass



        If negative mass or negative energy particles are spontaneously created and destroyed in some small amount, a lab on the edge of a black hole is the place to look for them.



        The Granularity of Space-Time



        So far, all experiments done have indicated that while electro-magnetic and strong/weak nuclear forces have quantum behavior: that is everything has discrete behavior - one unit, two, three...; but space-time itself has appeared in every experiment to be smooth. It may be possible near a singularity to test this smoothness more rigorously. I'm not sure what quantum space-time would prove, but it would change a lot of things.



        Compactified Dimensions



        It should be possible, under the extreme energy conditions, to construct at least a few experiments to probe compactified dimensions. The math predicts either none, 10, or 11. How many are there, really? Do they exist at all? What does it mean (new ways of storing data at higher densities, communication, travel)?






        share











        share


        share










        answered 6 mins ago









        James McLellanJames McLellan

        5,8971734




        5,8971734






















            Godfrey of Bouillon is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.










            draft saved

            draft discarded


















            Godfrey of Bouillon is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.













            Godfrey of Bouillon is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.












            Godfrey of Bouillon is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
















            Thanks for contributing an answer to Worldbuilding Stack Exchange!


            • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

            But avoid



            • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

            • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.


            Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.


            To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.




            draft saved


            draft discarded














            StackExchange.ready(
            function () {
            StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fworldbuilding.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f137849%2fwhat-kind-of-science-could-be-done-in-a-station-orbiting-black-hole%23new-answer', 'question_page');
            }
            );

            Post as a guest















            Required, but never shown





















































            Required, but never shown














            Required, but never shown












            Required, but never shown







            Required, but never shown

































            Required, but never shown














            Required, but never shown












            Required, but never shown







            Required, but never shown







            Popular posts from this blog

            Why is a white electrical wire connected to 2 black wires?

            Waikiki

            What are all the squawk codes?