Why is lead(II) present in two groups of cation analysis?












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Well, I found that lead cation $ce{Pb^2+}$ is present in both group 1 and group 2 of cation analysis. But why?










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          Simply because lead(II) fits both analytical groups:




          • it forms lead(II) chloride $ce{PbCl2}$, a poor soluble chloride, which puts it in the 1st group;

          • it also forms lead(II) sulfide $ce{PbS}$, insoluble in water and diluted acids, which also puts it in the 2nd group.


          One reason for putting lead in both groups is that the chloride is somewhat of a borderline case in terms of being insoluble enough to appear in Group I. Group II represents a more complicated analysis but is more sensitive for lead.






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            Lead (II) chloride has enough solubility so it could slip through the cracks in Group I. Group II where the sulfide is precipitated is more sensitive.
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            – Oscar Lanzi
            58 mins ago






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            @OscarLanzi You are right, probably it would be worth adding that there are no sharp margins between these 6 groups and various sources add or remove cations from one group to another arbitrarily.
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            – andselisk
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          $begingroup$

          Simply because lead(II) fits both analytical groups:




          • it forms lead(II) chloride $ce{PbCl2}$, a poor soluble chloride, which puts it in the 1st group;

          • it also forms lead(II) sulfide $ce{PbS}$, insoluble in water and diluted acids, which also puts it in the 2nd group.


          One reason for putting lead in both groups is that the chloride is somewhat of a borderline case in terms of being insoluble enough to appear in Group I. Group II represents a more complicated analysis but is more sensitive for lead.






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            $begingroup$
            Lead (II) chloride has enough solubility so it could slip through the cracks in Group I. Group II where the sulfide is precipitated is more sensitive.
            $endgroup$
            – Oscar Lanzi
            58 mins ago






          • 1




            $begingroup$
            @OscarLanzi You are right, probably it would be worth adding that there are no sharp margins between these 6 groups and various sources add or remove cations from one group to another arbitrarily.
            $endgroup$
            – andselisk
            56 mins ago
















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          $begingroup$

          Simply because lead(II) fits both analytical groups:




          • it forms lead(II) chloride $ce{PbCl2}$, a poor soluble chloride, which puts it in the 1st group;

          • it also forms lead(II) sulfide $ce{PbS}$, insoluble in water and diluted acids, which also puts it in the 2nd group.


          One reason for putting lead in both groups is that the chloride is somewhat of a borderline case in terms of being insoluble enough to appear in Group I. Group II represents a more complicated analysis but is more sensitive for lead.






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          • 1




            $begingroup$
            Lead (II) chloride has enough solubility so it could slip through the cracks in Group I. Group II where the sulfide is precipitated is more sensitive.
            $endgroup$
            – Oscar Lanzi
            58 mins ago






          • 1




            $begingroup$
            @OscarLanzi You are right, probably it would be worth adding that there are no sharp margins between these 6 groups and various sources add or remove cations from one group to another arbitrarily.
            $endgroup$
            – andselisk
            56 mins ago














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          $begingroup$

          Simply because lead(II) fits both analytical groups:




          • it forms lead(II) chloride $ce{PbCl2}$, a poor soluble chloride, which puts it in the 1st group;

          • it also forms lead(II) sulfide $ce{PbS}$, insoluble in water and diluted acids, which also puts it in the 2nd group.


          One reason for putting lead in both groups is that the chloride is somewhat of a borderline case in terms of being insoluble enough to appear in Group I. Group II represents a more complicated analysis but is more sensitive for lead.






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          Simply because lead(II) fits both analytical groups:




          • it forms lead(II) chloride $ce{PbCl2}$, a poor soluble chloride, which puts it in the 1st group;

          • it also forms lead(II) sulfide $ce{PbS}$, insoluble in water and diluted acids, which also puts it in the 2nd group.


          One reason for putting lead in both groups is that the chloride is somewhat of a borderline case in terms of being insoluble enough to appear in Group I. Group II represents a more complicated analysis but is more sensitive for lead.







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            $begingroup$
            Lead (II) chloride has enough solubility so it could slip through the cracks in Group I. Group II where the sulfide is precipitated is more sensitive.
            $endgroup$
            – Oscar Lanzi
            58 mins ago






          • 1




            $begingroup$
            @OscarLanzi You are right, probably it would be worth adding that there are no sharp margins between these 6 groups and various sources add or remove cations from one group to another arbitrarily.
            $endgroup$
            – andselisk
            56 mins ago














          • 1




            $begingroup$
            Lead (II) chloride has enough solubility so it could slip through the cracks in Group I. Group II where the sulfide is precipitated is more sensitive.
            $endgroup$
            – Oscar Lanzi
            58 mins ago






          • 1




            $begingroup$
            @OscarLanzi You are right, probably it would be worth adding that there are no sharp margins between these 6 groups and various sources add or remove cations from one group to another arbitrarily.
            $endgroup$
            – andselisk
            56 mins ago








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          $begingroup$
          Lead (II) chloride has enough solubility so it could slip through the cracks in Group I. Group II where the sulfide is precipitated is more sensitive.
          $endgroup$
          – Oscar Lanzi
          58 mins ago




          $begingroup$
          Lead (II) chloride has enough solubility so it could slip through the cracks in Group I. Group II where the sulfide is precipitated is more sensitive.
          $endgroup$
          – Oscar Lanzi
          58 mins ago




          1




          1




          $begingroup$
          @OscarLanzi You are right, probably it would be worth adding that there are no sharp margins between these 6 groups and various sources add or remove cations from one group to another arbitrarily.
          $endgroup$
          – andselisk
          56 mins ago




          $begingroup$
          @OscarLanzi You are right, probably it would be worth adding that there are no sharp margins between these 6 groups and various sources add or remove cations from one group to another arbitrarily.
          $endgroup$
          – andselisk
          56 mins ago


















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